From the mangastream version of the Sabertooth Special chapter. Some pictures of the anime, including some sceneries. For me, all the design (character + scenaries) seems better, there is no doubt. I can’t wait !
You smile too, you’ve got people who are important in your life. If you still have love in your life, then you should live on.
SOOO prepare your butts for the gruvia spamming during the gruvia oneshot AND the Gruvia-Week.
ITS GOING TO BE A GRUVIA CRAZYNESS THE WHOLE MONTH!!
Gray and Juvia - Sabertooth Special ChapterColored version by me
I feel ya, anon. Everyone can ship what they like, but what’s the big deal getting happy over your ship? No one is hurting anybody being happy, and enjoying something. I never understood this issue. If people ship a crack pairing, or a pairing that has little to no evidence, and take small shared panels as moments, and grasp at any interactions as something to be happy about, why is it any different when shippers of the larger ships do the same?
The Gruvia stuff in the special wasn’t a moment really, and I have no problem saying that. But it was the unexpectedness of them turning up in it, being together and relaxed, and their interactions with Frosch that people are happy about. No one expected Gruvia to show up in the Sabertooth special, let alone to get that much panel time. And it seemed to confirm what many gruvia shippers always suspected, which is that Gray and Juvia DO hang out together, and have built up a close friendship in off-panel moments.
Of course the shippers would be excited. There’s nothing wrong with celebrating a positive. So some people need to calm down, and stop hating for silly reasons. Everyone has their own blog, and they can be happy about whatever they want.
Juvia x Silver – possible first encounters they could have based on countless theories.
Exciting possibilities indeed! ^-^ Please let Juvia run into Silver. I need this in my life.
Most people look at Juvia’s fangirling as a universally negative thing.
I’d like to argue that there’s a huge positive aspect to Juvia’s behavior. I think her overt and open displays of love for Gray have drawn him out of the shell he’d built around himself.
Let’s start in an unlikely place:…
I absolutely agree with this, and thank you for pointing out how Gray has acted cold, and distant to other people, too. As you rightly said, Juvia is someone he can’t ignore, or just brush away. She’s overwhelming at times, yes, but that’s the point. Because she is the way she is, she is someone he can’t just ignore or push away. Because she refuses TO BE pushed away.
He rejected her (and I actually think that he WAS trying to reject her completely, because if it was just the fangirl thing, then I think he would have reacted differently to the bread situation, and Cana and Mira wouldn’t have made those comments about Gray contradicting the rejection), and I think he hoped that she would just give up, which is why he was as harsh and blunt as he was with it. He was trying his best to discourage her completely.
But Juvia being Juvia, bounced right back, and they went right back to how they always were, but there was a slight change. Juvia is still fangirling, but it’s different, and Gray seemed more obliging to her requests. So there has been progress since the rejection, and there are probably several cracks in Gray’s ice already haha. That’s why we got that ‘I’m here with you” moment.
So, for whatever reason he’s trying to push her away (fear of losing her/getting too close to someone), it just wont work with Juvia. And I think he’s realizing this, and she is drawing him out of his icy shell because she doesn’t give up. Because she’s so persistent. So, no matter how harsh, or cold, or insulting, or blunt Gray is with her, she wont be deterred the way someone (anyone) else would be, because she loves him, and he knows this now. She flat out told him so, and he can’t ignore it, even if he wanted to. ^__^
I’m right there with you. Like you said, I don’t expect everyone to ship Gruvia, or to even like it at all. But, it’s amazing the tunnel vision some people have when it comes to this ship. It’s frustrating, because it is almost ALWAYS Juvia that’s wrong. It’s almost ALWAYS she who needs to change so she can “deserve” to be with Gray. For most people, Gray is practically perfect as he is, and she is the problem in the ship. Why?
I don’t think Juvia is perfect. And I don’t think Gray is perfect. And especially in this case, where it’s obviously Gray who has the issue here. So, to see his problem of bottling things up being blamed on Juvia, when she was the only one who made things a little better for him, and was the only one to acknowledge he was hurting, is just ridiculous.
That’s a characterization problem. It’s not something only related to Gruvia/Juvia fandom, it happens everywhere. People tend to take the biggest trait of characters/relationship and make them the basis for everything.
For example, when you think about Juvia you instantly think about an image of her fangirling, because it’s the most constant side of her throughout the manga. And when you think about Gruvia, people relate it to the “funny” scenes where Juvia does something over the top, Gray freaks out consequently and Juvia still doesn’t take the hint; because that’s what Mashima’s used most with this two.
The thing is that people, shippers, indifferents or haters, have that image of character and relationship when they start speaking, overlaying any other type of interaction between the two.The rest is dismissed.
When they start criticizing Gruvia, in my opinion, they only use that image for their arguments. They see how Juvia is so overwhelming and how painfully obvious is that Gray doesn’t like it, because, hey, an over attached woman is nothing cute. They “forget” any other (more serious and the ones that really matter) interaction where it shows that those two run deeper than that and how Gray actually does stupid things too.
So by the end of the day, the fault falls in Juvia because she’s too burdening in those moment where the main purpose is humor more than relationship evolution.
Sorry for the length, but needed to say this. Has been bugging me a lot.
I agree completely with your assessment, and think this is true. As I said, I know not everyone does this, and I even understand some of the people who do see things this way, and why. I know her fangirling is a huge part of her character and how she’s portrayed, and that’s the image stuck most firmly in most people’s minds. So, when I bring up her other moments, or make points based on the other (non-fangirly) aspects and events of her character, I often get responses like ‘oh you have a good memory” or “I didn’t think of it like that.”
However, if people are going to lash out at a character, then IMO, they better have their facts straight, and not “forget” or “dismiss” things. Especially if their argument is unfairly one-sided. Otherwise I have no problem calling them out on it.